Clarification regarding crime statistics submitted to LegCo Finance Committee

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Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to make a data access request in relation to the Security Bureau’s Replies to initial written questions raised by Finance Committee Members in examining the Estimates of Expenditure 2021-22 (https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr20-21/english...).

In particular, I would like to understand more about the following three statistics mentioned in the document:

1) the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences (SB004) [p.15-16 Table at the bottom of p.15],

2) the number arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA of the Immigration Ordinance (SB004) [p.16], and

3) the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117) [Table on p.258]

May I know:

Are the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences distinct (SB004, p. 15-16) from those arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA IO (SB004, p.16) - i.e. are the persons accounted for in both statistics (a) separate or (b) is their overlap between them?

For those arrested for criminal offences (SB004, p. 15-16), are persons ‘double-counted’ for multiple offences or does each count account for a single person? For example, if a person was arrested on suspicion of shop theft and burglary, would that arrest be counted under the shop theft category and the burglary category, or would it be counted in only one category of offences?

Are the persons arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA (SB004, p.16) separate from those listed in the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117, p.258), or is there any overlap between the two sets of statistics? What is the relationship between these two statistics?

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to follow up on my request from 2 June, 2021. Please see the original request attached below and kindly respond soon.

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra
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Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to make a data access request in relation to the Security Bureau’s Replies to initial written questions raised by Finance Committee Members in examining the Estimates of Expenditure 2021-22 (https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr20-21/english...).

In particular, I would like to understand more about the following three statistics mentioned in the document:

1) the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences (SB004) [p.15-16 Table at the bottom of p.15],

2) the number arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA of the Immigration Ordinance (SB004) [p.16], and

3) the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117) [Table on p.258]

May I know:

Are the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences distinct (SB004, p. 15-16) from those arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA IO (SB004, p.16) - i.e. are the persons accounted for in both statistics (a) separate or (b) is their overlap between them?

For those arrested for criminal offences (SB004, p. 15-16), are persons ‘double-counted’ for multiple offences or does each count account for a single person? For example, if a person was arrested on suspicion of shop theft and burglary, would that arrest be counted under the shop theft category and the burglary category, or would it be counted in only one category of offences?

Are the persons arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA (SB004, p.16) separate from those listed in the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117, p.258), or is there any overlap between the two sets of statistics? What is the relationship between these two statistics?

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to follow up again on my request from 2 June, 2021. Please see the original request attached below and kindly respond soon.

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra
- - -

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to make a data access request in relation to the Security Bureau’s Replies to initial written questions raised by Finance Committee Members in examining the Estimates of Expenditure 2021-22 (https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr20-21/english...).

In particular, I would like to understand more about the following three statistics mentioned in the document:

1) the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences (SB004) [p.15-16 Table at the bottom of p.15],

2) the number arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA of the Immigration Ordinance (SB004) [p.16], and

3) the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117) [Table on p.258]

May I know:

Are the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences distinct (SB004, p. 15-16) from those arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA IO (SB004, p.16) - i.e. are the persons accounted for in both statistics (a) separate or (b) is their overlap between them?

For those arrested for criminal offences (SB004, p. 15-16), are persons ‘double-counted’ for multiple offences or does each count account for a single person? For example, if a person was arrested on suspicion of shop theft and burglary, would that arrest be counted under the shop theft category and the burglary category, or would it be counted in only one category of offences?

Are the persons arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA (SB004, p.16) separate from those listed in the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117, p.258), or is there any overlap between the two sets of statistics? What is the relationship between these two statistics?

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

Dear Ms Chopra,
Your application for Access to Information has been received.  The
application is now under processing.  We will give you a reply as soon as
possible.
 
Security Bureau

From:        Surabhi Chopra <[FOI #670 email]>
To:        FOI requests at Security Bureau <[Security Bureau request email]>,
Date:        27/09/2021 14:34
Subject:        Re: Freedom of Information request - Clarification
regarding crime statistics submitted to LegCo Finance Committee

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Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to follow up again on my request from 2 June, 2021. Please
see the original request attached below and kindly respond soon.

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

- - -

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to make a data access request in relation to the Security
Bureau’s Replies to initial written questions raised by Finance Committee
Members in examining the Estimates of Expenditure 2021-22
([1]https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr20-21/english...).

In particular, I would like to understand more about the following three
statistics mentioned in the document:

1) the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences
(SB004) [p.15-16 Table at the bottom of p.15],

2) the number arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA of the
Immigration Ordinance (SB004) [p.16], and

3) the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117) [Table
on p.258]

May I know:

Are the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences
distinct (SB004, p. 15-16) from those arrested for unlawful employment
under section 38AA IO (SB004, p.16) - i.e. are the persons accounted for
in both statistics (a) separate or (b) is their overlap between them?

For those arrested for criminal offences (SB004, p. 15-16), are persons
‘double-counted’ for multiple offences or does each count account for a
single person? For example, if a person was arrested on suspicion of shop
theft and burglary, would that arrest be counted under the shop theft
category and the burglary category, or would it be counted in only one
category of offences?

Are the persons arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA
(SB004, p.16) separate from those listed in the number of illegal workers
and immigration offenders (SB117, p.258), or is there any overlap between
the two sets of statistics? What is the relationship between these two
statistics?

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

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Dear Ms Chopra,
 
We refer to your email dated 27 September 2021 and our interim reply dated
5 October 2021.  We need more time to handle your request and we shall
revert to you soon.
 
Security Bureau

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From:        Surabhi Chopra <[FOI #670 email]>
To:        FOI requests at Security Bureau <[Security Bureau request email]>,
Date:        27/09/2021 14:34
Subject:        Re: Freedom of Information request - Clarification
regarding crime statistics submitted to LegCo Finance Committee

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Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to follow up again on my request from 2 June, 2021. Please
see the original request attached below and kindly respond soon.

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

- - -

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to make a data access request in relation to the Security
Bureau’s Replies to initial written questions raised by Finance Committee
Members in examining the Estimates of Expenditure 2021-22
([1]https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr20-21/english...).

In particular, I would like to understand more about the following three
statistics mentioned in the document:

1) the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences
(SB004) [p.15-16 Table at the bottom of p.15],

2) the number arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA of the
Immigration Ordinance (SB004) [p.16], and

3) the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117) [Table
on p.258]

May I know:

Are the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences
distinct (SB004, p. 15-16) from those arrested for unlawful employment
under section 38AA IO (SB004, p.16) - i.e. are the persons accounted for
in both statistics (a) separate or (b) is their overlap between them?

For those arrested for criminal offences (SB004, p. 15-16), are persons
‘double-counted’ for multiple offences or does each count account for a
single person? For example, if a person was arrested on suspicion of shop
theft and burglary, would that arrest be counted under the shop theft
category and the burglary category, or would it be counted in only one
category of offences?

Are the persons arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA
(SB004, p.16) separate from those listed in the number of illegal workers
and immigration offenders (SB117, p.258), or is there any overlap between
the two sets of statistics? What is the relationship between these two
statistics?

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

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Dear Ms Chopra,

I refer to your request for access to information on 27 September 2021,
please.  Further to our interim replies on 6 October 2021 and 15 October
2021, in consultation with the Immigration Department and the Police,
please find below our reply.  

The non-ethnic Chinese persons on recognizance arrested for taking up
unlawful employment contrary to section 38AA of the Immigration Ordinance
(Cap. 115) were not included in the table regarding those arrested for
criminal offences as shown in the relevant reply to the Finance Committee
(i.e. Serial No. SB004).  For compilation of the latter statistics, if a
person was arrested on one occasion for several offences, only the offence
with the heaviest maximum permissible penalty would be recorded and hence
there is no "double-counting".  

As regards the former statistics, the concerned arrestees under section
38AA formed parts of the number of illegal workers arrested in the Reply
Serial No. SB117.

I hope you would find the above information useful.

Security Bureau

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From:        Brenda SY CHAN/SB/HKSARG
To:        Surabhi Chopra <[FOI #670 email]>,
Date:        15/10/2021 18:22
Subject:        Freedom of Information request - Clarification regarding
crime statistics submitted to LegCo Finance Committee

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Dear Ms Chopra,
 
We refer to your email dated 27 September 2021 and our interim reply dated
6 October 2021.  We need more time to handle your request and we shall
revert to you soon.
 
Security Bureau

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From:        SB-AIOREQ/SB/HKSARG
To:        Surabhi Chopra <[FOI #670 email]>,
Date:        06/10/2021 08:53
Subject:        Re: Freedom of Information request - Clarification
regarding crime statistics submitted to LegCo Finance Committee

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Dear Ms Chopra,

Your application for Access to Information has been received.  The
application is now under processing.  We will give you a reply as soon as
possible.
 
Security Bureau

From:        Surabhi Chopra <[FOI #670 email]>
To:        FOI requests at Security Bureau <[Security Bureau request email]>,
Date:        27/09/2021 14:34
Subject:        Re: Freedom of Information request - Clarification
regarding crime statistics submitted to LegCo Finance Committee

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to follow up again on my request from 2 June, 2021. Please
see the original request attached below and kindly respond soon.

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

- - -

Dear Security Bureau,

I am writing to make a data access request in relation to the Security
Bureau’s Replies to initial written questions raised by Finance Committee
Members in examining the Estimates of Expenditure 2021-22
([1]https://www.legco.gov.hk/yr20-21/english...).

In particular, I would like to understand more about the following three
statistics mentioned in the document:

1) the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences
(SB004) [p.15-16 Table at the bottom of p.15],

2) the number arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA of the
Immigration Ordinance (SB004) [p.16], and

3) the number of illegal workers and immigration offenders (SB117) [Table
on p.258]

May I know:

Are the number of recognizance holders arrested for criminal offences
distinct (SB004, p. 15-16) from those arrested for unlawful employment
under section 38AA IO (SB004, p.16) - i.e. are the persons accounted for
in both statistics (a) separate or (b) is their overlap between them?

For those arrested for criminal offences (SB004, p. 15-16), are persons
‘double-counted’ for multiple offences or does each count account for a
single person? For example, if a person was arrested on suspicion of shop
theft and burglary, would that arrest be counted under the shop theft
category and the burglary category, or would it be counted in only one
category of offences?

Are the persons arrested for unlawful employment under section 38AA
(SB004, p.16) separate from those listed in the number of illegal workers
and immigration offenders (SB117, p.258), or is there any overlap between
the two sets of statistics? What is the relationship between these two
statistics?

Yours faithfully,

Surabhi Chopra

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